Adaptec Powerdomain 39160 Ultra160 Scsi Pci For Mac
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Bill: Regarding your question: Does anybody know if the Adaptec 2940 SCSI card works in OS X and is it bootable? Thanks. There is a guy named Bob Nunn, in Memphis, TN, who has been rebuilding Mac systems for 17-years. He seems like one of the most Mac savvy people I have found, and he is an excellent resource for refurbished parts. The first link listed below leads to Bob Mac User Tech Tips. On page-5 he notes tests he ran using the Adaptec 2940 and ATTO SCSI cards. I have a bit of difficulty finding Bobs store entrance vs. His tech tips so the second link leads to his sales dept. At Adaptecs KB support site, I entered 2940 scsi card + macintosh. It gave 135 Searchable Answers. Inserting macintosh + 2940 scsi card produced 298 Searchable Answers, exactly the same number it gave me for the 39160.
For some reason merely turning the words around generates different answers. Doing it a third time produces 500 answers. Leave out the Mac reference and youll get 4400+ answers.
The link below leads to Adaptec's KB. I have read quite a few articles lately in which people indicate that Initio cards are by far superior to Adaptecs. The link to an article by Mac Gurus that is listed below states this in pretty strong terms, and they also appear to be much more reasonably priced. In 2000, when I installed the 39160, an Adaptec Rep had me download some sort of a patch from Apple. There was a workaround for properly installing the card in the beige that I cant recall.
I paid $60+ for an out of warranty call to an Adaptec Rep who basically told me to flash the card from a drive hooked directly into the motherboard. This is the only way Ive managed to get any OS loaded on my Ultra 160 LVD drive since then, and it functions at the SCSI-2 level. The Adaptec Reps only response to my desire for installing Jaguar was OS X and SCSI dont get along very well. I have noticed that Grant Bennet-Alder appears to be very well informed about SCSI issues, as reflected by his reply to my questions in Msg.#3 of the Beige Quandaries, and your own exchanges with him in this forum. Also, someplace in Bob Nunns Tech Notes, he indicates that he has put SCSI cards and OS X together without a hitch.
There are a couple things I do recall that the Adaptec Rep told me in 2000 regarding SCSI IDs. 1) The 39160 card is set to ID = 7 by default. 2) For some reason he set the original IBM drive with ID = 0 (On Bus-0) even though the Internal ATA CD-ROM drive is also set to ID = 0; and he indicated this posed no problem.
Adaptec Powerdomain 39160 Ultra160 Scsi Pci For Mac Os
Again, the IBM 9GB drive, is plugged into the motherboard, and occupies SCSI Bus-0 by itself. 3) The Quantum 10k Atlas (LVD) drive is connected to SCSI Bus-1 by itself.
Its set to ID = 6. I use a separate Adaptec cable with an LVD-SE terminator for each drive, and the drives are the only thing connected to these cables. Yours and Brents knowledge of what is actually going on in the box by far exceeds mine. Im just brainstorming here, and I thought Id point out the best resources Ive found in the midst of a pretty exhaustive study upon SCSI cards, and who knows, maybe even stumble across an answer. Best wishes Terry C.
Bill, By the way, the reason I mentioned the 'Mac Gurus' article listed above, is that it covers quite a liteny of subjects involving connections and termination that you and Grant Bennet-Alder have been examining recently. It also appears to emphasize that the 'Initio' card is plug and play in OS X, and that it actually requires a firmware patch for booting into OS 9. Also, I wanted to properly thank Grant Bennet-Alder for his exhaustive study of these subjects, which I have read with considerable interest, and apologize for transposing his name.
I encountered a bit of stormy weather myself over the summer, and consciousness has been sort of like a completely new thing lately. One other thing. The 2940 and 39160 card pulled up virtually the same FAQ in Adaptec's KB. While I was cycling from window to window for days on end, I made an MS Word Doc with a table of contents.
It would be a 120 page attachment, but it takes you from any FAQ to the answer with a click. Adaptec Reps were up front in saying that they had no intition for developing anything to make their cards OS X compatable. The FAQs appear to stress that Adaptec cards do not facilitate booting from OS X.
If booting from OS X on an LVD drive is the objective, Initio's cards appear to be the most cost effective means of accomplishing it. They are very reasonably priced. The Apple/ATTO Express PCI PSC, which shipped in the beige server G3s, works fine in Mac OS X after firmware update (either Apple or ATTO) but only does SE-Single Ended.
Adaptec Powerdomain 39160 Ultra160 Scsi Pci For Mac Pro
The Apple/ATTO UL2D card after firmware update works in Mac OS 9, but crashes the CD/DVD driver, especially if there is an inactive CD in the Drive at Startup. It is not supported, but seems to work fine from my experience in Mac OS X. Others have observed that the de-populated second internal connector can be re-installed and work. I also read that article, Grant.
I have also read on Adaptec's knowledge base that nobody makes software that can burn a CD on a SCSI burner in OS X. (Nobody except Roxio and Apple.) I read Apple used a version of the Adaptec 2940U2W card as an OEM part, so I was thinking maybe OS X supported it even if Adaptec didn't.
I was asking becaues I spotted a 2940U2W cheap on eBay. The suggestions for other cards (Initio, ATTO) are appreciated, but I am not really in the market for a new SCSI card- just thought I'd get one that's bootable for my newly acquired B&W, which came with Adaptec's non-bootable 2906 card. Never hurts, I say, to have another boot option. Thanks for the heads up on the ATTO card with OS9 conflicts. That was another card I saw on eBay and was wondering about.
Had some of those Adaptec 2940 cards and they are not supported in OSX. ALso some users reported 2906 and 2930 cards are no longer working in 10.4 aka Tiger. Adaptec does no longer support Mac systems wich also means no new drivers (only the beta ones for the 29160, 39160). There are only ATTO, ACARD and INITIO left.
SCSI is downward compatible wich means U320 cards can also do SCSI1. INITIO's fastest card is U2W (80MB/s) ACARD's fastest card is U160 dual channel ATTO's fastest card is U320 dual channel For a Beige I would recommend the Miles2 (U2W) or the ATTO PSC (UW 40MB/s). Regards Nicolas.
I recently managed to get my hands on two supposedly different versions of the Adaptec 2940W/2940UW PCI SCSI card, namely the non-Mac version and the Mac version (usually known as the PowerDomain). The labels on the chips indicate that they are respectively for IBM and Mac. I downloaded the latest Flash Utility for this card (v4.1, from memory) from the Adaptec site and flashed each card in the Mac on which I was trying them out (a 9500 running System 9.2.2, courtesy of OS9 Helper). They both worked like a charm and, as far as I could tell, were being recognized identically. Tempting fate (and hoping to be surprised even further, which I was) I tried them both in a beige G3 MT (running System 9.2.2 and OS X 10.3.9, courtesy of XPostFacto3). Both cards worked properly under both OS's!
I have not yet had a chance to test whether they affect other functions and/or devices and if they can be booted from, but so far everything seems to be OK. My next move will be to try a standard Adaptec 2940U2W card, as the 2940W/UW definitely does not handle LVD drives. I have managed to boot from a drive attached to the Adaptec 2940UW on both my 9600/200 running Sys 9.2.2 and my beige G3 MT, also running Sys 9.2.2. When I tried booting from the same card (instead of from the normal OS X boot drive - an IDE drive attached via the built-in IDE bus) in OS X 10.3.9 on the beige G3 MT, it didn't like it, and stalled near the start of the boot process - when the silver apple on the white background appears and the 12-spoked wheel cursor starts spinning, it stopped spinning after about 3 times 'round the clock'. I will try again in a few days time and see if things improve. At least, booting in System 9.2.2 gave no problems at all on my setup. After digging round Adaptec's web site and reading many of their 'answers', I have assumed that the non-Mac version of the 2940UW which I have (and which flashed OK with the Mac Utility) is probably a full retail version.
According to Adaptec, the ROM's/BIOS's in the OEM versions (those bundled with other manufacturers' products) are not flashable in the same way that the full Adaptec retail versions were, and were designed/limited to be usable with the bundled hardware/software combo, and might or might not work with other combinations. In fact, I have been trying out a 2940U2W (which I know is an OEM version) for its LVD capability. When I put it in the 9600, it was not recognized by the system. However, it was recognized as a PowerDomain (Mac version) 2940U2W card by both the PowerDomain Control Utility (for changing settings on the card) and the 2940U2W v 1.1 Flash Utility. Attempting to flash the card resulted in a message indicating that no firmware upgrades were carried out because ROM verification failed (error no.
When I put this same card in my beige G3 MT under 9.2.2 the same scenario played out. Trying to use it under OS X 10.3.9 yielded fruit - it was recognized and allowed connected hard drives to show up on the desktop and be used normally, both on the LVD connector and the normal Ultra2 connector. Apple Footer. This site contains user submitted content, comments and opinions and is for informational purposes only.
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